British Strategy, Britain's Place in the World: Some Idle Musings

by David Betz on 8 October 2009 · 46 comments

Lately on KOW we have been talking about strategy, in particular British strategy. For myself, and I suspect many others, these discussions while interesting have also been somewhat frustrating. I can’t help but think that the questions being asked are not the correct ones—or more accurately they are not the fundamental ones. It is as though we are debating whether to build a castle with round towers or square towers before having agreed where to plant the foundations. It brings to mind the logic of the King of Swamp Castle from Monty Python’s Holy Grail.

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Belatedly I noticed this article in the Daily Telegraph from a couple of weeks ago ‘We need to completely rethink our foreign policy’ by David Howell, Shadow Foreign and Commonwealth Minister. In it, says he:

…an amazing new world has evolved around us. The US remains a great and powerful nation, but its unipolar moment has passed. It no longer leads the world, because there is no single “top dog” in the old sense. Pax Americana is no more; and Western hegemony is in severe decline.

This is why it is surely time for a clean break, and a new strategic direction – or, at the very least, to answer some immediate and important questions for British foreign policy. Do we have the right stances and tones, as well as the right distribution of diplomatic resources, in our relations with Brussels, with the new rising powers of Asia and the Middle East, and especially with Washington? Or does President Obama’s brush-off of Gordon Brown in New York this week now tell us a different story?

Following on from that, do we have the right military and security dispositions to meet these new conditions? Are the international institutions of the 20th century the right ones for the new century? We take pride in belonging to so many of them – Nato, the EU, the United Nations Security Council, the World Trade Organisation – but are they still the best channels for projecting our aims and guarding our security today?

Are we investing in the Commonwealth as a power network of the future, embracing as it does some of the fastest growing and most dynamic nations on earth? Are we right to invest so much time and effort in institutional reform of the EU, and to channel so much of our overseas development efforts through it? Have we adjusted our foreign policy priorities to our new pattern of energy needs, environmental imperatives and climate change concerns?

Perhaps above all, do we have the right ministerial and administrative systems in London to adjust, flexibly and swiftly, to the new conditions, and the right balance and co-ordination between our major departments concerned with overseas affairs?

There is a single answer to all these questions: a blunt “no”.

Well, I agree the answer is no and since he has thrown down the gauntlet I might as well pick it up and have a go at his first question, do we have the right understanding of our place in the world? To his credit, Howell asks not just whether we’ve the right tone and balance in our relations not just with Brussels and Washington but also with the rising powers of Asia. Typically, the debate here tends to involve our relationship with just two major forces –the USA and the EU—and our potential role tends to be defined as fitting into one of three slots:

  • pro-American;
  • pro-European; or,
  • Atlantic Bridge.

What’s wrong with this, as Richard North noted in comments on KOW is that we can be guaranteed to fudge the question. It is worth a long quote:

Herein lies the unresolved problem. There are those two competing matrices, the US-led coalition, and the Euro-centric coalition (ERRF etc). In doctrinal and objective terms, far from being compatible, these are effectively mutually exclusive – and we cannot afford to take an active part in both. Thus, we are going to have to make a choice … which is not possible in the context of our membership of the EU, when we have treaty obligations, while at the same time we are committed to supporting the US-led effort in Afghanistan. One or the other must go.

One can see, however, the new administration – as did the current one – refusing to make a choice, and even refusing to accept that we have to make a choice, thus continuing the fudge which has dogged current defence planning. The defence problem is insoluble until or unless we make the choice and since we have no intention of making that choice, the problem is insoluble.

What bothers me is that each of these three putative foreign policy choices is flawed in one way or another. The ‘Atlantic Bridge’ option is brining diminishing returns. This bothers me because were the choice mine I would think this to be the best one. In a world of rising non-Western powers there is a compelling case (i.e., fear—see Domenique Moisi’s Geopolitics of Emotion) to be made that Europe and America need to stick together pretty forcefully. But things are not really headed that way at the moment anyway. On the other hand, the ‘pro-American’ option, where my  gut feeling also might take me, runs aground on the fact that most of the rest of the  UK population considers that it is reducing us to the status of a vassal. I don’t agree with this; in fact I think there is a ‘special relationship’—just not in the place that people usually look for it. At the political level I reckon Americans scoff at Britain’s pretention of playing Greece to their Rome, as Patrick Porter puts it. (Perhaps he’ll weigh in with some thoughts on the elusive special relationship about which I know he has been writing lately). But in the military? A while ago I was invited to take part in a 3-day exercise of the ABCA armies. I blogged about it ‘ABCA: The Alliance You Never Heard Of’. I found it eye-opening the degree to which American, British, Australian and Canadian (and New Zealnad) officers genuinely seemed to consider each other part of the same ‘team’. It was described to me in the bar as ‘the alliance that works’ (or ‘fights’, I can’t recall the words precisely though I think in this instance they meant the same thing). In another comment on the earlier British strategy post somebody asked why there were American officers in the MOD Strategy Unit. A fair question, perhaps, but I wonder if the questioner was aware that a lead drafter new US Quadrennial Defense Review, Shawn Brimley, is a Canadian? A month ago BGEN H.R. McMaster was in the UK consulting widely on the US Army Capstone Concept which he is drafting. Honestly, I think the Americans are prepared to listen. Are we prepared to say anything useful is an apposite question.

On the other other hand, the ‘pro-European’ option fails by virtue of the fact that it is epically unpopular. A problem with the recent IPPR report on British security policy which I blogged about a while ago in ‘Her Majesty’s Wasting Assets’ is that an approach that favours European integration runs up against two factors: 1, we’re going to have a Tory government and Tory opinion will not wear it at any price; and, 2 The EU is simply very unpopular in this country, which is why no one dares to let the public have a  say on the matter for, by and large, the polls show that less than a third of the public are pro-EU, close to a majority wants out at any one time (would they actually vote for this if push came to shove?) and a lot of those who want in only want in as part of a very loose free trade agreement. An alliance is based in part, ultimately probably a large part, on sentiment. Regardless of any structural issues that suggest European integration, in the abstract, is the best move there is really insufficient sentiment behind it. Frankly, FWIW, I detest the idea.

Speaking of sentiment, one hears a lot lately about a growing cultural rift between the USA and the UK whose values and worldviews are drifting apart but I don’t see it; on the contrary, in fact. This department has more and better American PhD students now than ever, many of whom are coming from or headed to influential positions in US government. There’s a massive cultural interchange between Britain and America—as much as before, and probably more. Furthermore I would argue that it is less biased toward Americanisms being imported into the UK than it has been in the past. Case in point: I can say ‘the theory of a cultural rift between the US and the UK is bollocks’ and Americans will get it just fine. You might say that none of this speaks to more profound issues of policy and worldview, that it has no impact on the broader strategic question, or on the dynamics of power relations. I humbly submit that you would be wrong; I’d say we’re gradually creeping together.

So if neither of these three frameworks are really doing it for us, are there any alternative approaches? I will concede that merely because I find unappetizing all the options on the menu that the chef can/will cook something more palatable; perhaps the ingredients are what they are and the the world is as it is. But… and here’s where I come back to David Howell’s question about the Commonwealth—an institution I have long thought underutilized—is it not sensible to explore the possibility of bandwagoning with other powers that are allied/aligned with the USA but which suffer, as the lion (beaver, marsupial, whatever) sleeping with the elephant, in a similar manner to ourselves, from a disparity of power. Why not pursue closer relations with Australia and, particularly, Canada? When I wrote earlier about the ABCA I said its aims were ‘… more limited and short-term than they really ought to be.’  What if the situation with respect to the ABCA was less A + B + C + A, with each of the lesser powers being bruised and feeling used in turn by the affectionate embraces of the leviathan, and more A + (B+C+A)? And so on. This would be good for all. It would also be good for Britain which is still perceived in many quarters of the world (notably in the region of those ‘Rising Powers’ which concern us) as a useful ally, on the basis that we’re powerful enough to be a useful contact but not so powerful as to be able to dominate anyone.

There is clearly a strong institutional bias against this. I can also anticipate critics saying this is all some longing for a half-imagined long since past state of affairs. That might even be true—at least partially!–I confess.  But if we’re to think strategically about our foreign and defence policy we must understand clearly where we are and what we want to be. If we don’t like the status quo on the former and we fear where aimless blundering will take us on the latter then isn’t it time to think ‘out of the box’ just a bit? Would it really be unworkable? Are we not doing something like this because it is a stupid, unworkable idea or is it strategic myopia and bureaucratic inertia? All comments accepted. Fire away.

**With thanks and co-authoring credit to my brilliant student and esteemed colleague Anthony Cormack with whom I have been corresponding about this by email and who will recognize his words and thoughts in this post.

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Graham 8 October 2009 at 18:18

Speaking as an American, I’ve heard the notion of Britain playing the role of Greece to America’s Rome bandied about quite a bit. I don’t think it’s something at which we scoff.

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Guy 8 October 2009 at 20:12

Lots of good stuff here. But as Richard North would be only too quick to point out- how is this possible without removing the UK from the EU? The Lisbon Treaty, indeed the past 30 years, have been all about closer and closer political integration.

The problem is, the UK can’t just shrink back the EU to what most UK citizens seem to want (i.e. a small trade organisation). Either the UK is all in with the EU, it ratifies the Lisbon Treaty and we start planning for total political, economic and cultural merger. Or we leave the EU totally. There is no middle way.

And that creates a further problem. The Tories have shrunk from a referendum, Cameron appears little interested in the EU and the party would be divided. To tackle Europe head on would lead to a bloody battle within the Conservative party. I can’t see Cameron doing that, regardless of the strategic motive. Instead, as ever, we’ll muddle on.

In essence this all reminds me of Churchills post-WW2 plan. A European power. An American power. And a Commonwealth power in the middle.

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rwc 9 October 2009 at 00:59

“Out of the box?”

Fifty-first state of these United States.

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Cullen 9 October 2009 at 01:25

“I don’t agree with this; in fact I think there is a ’special relationship’—just not in the place that people usually look for it.”

Agreed. The ‘special relationship’ blossoms, as it were, behind closed doors. Not many countries share intelligence and frank opinions – to say nothing of facilities, technology, and personnel – like the US and UK do.

As for the alleged snub by Obama, presidents and prime ministers come and go; the special relationship, underpinned by decades of institutional cooperation, does not.

We – the collective Anglo-Americans – should think carefully before letting that relationship fade.

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Cincinnatus Jr. 9 October 2009 at 02:06

Good observations in the post and subsequent comments. I need to mull this over a bit before weighing in but the fact we are having this discussion and that apparently both US and UK readers are contributing suggests some answers to the questions posed.

I would also note that indecision of (primarily civilian) governmental leaders is something we here in the US are also experiencing as the hand wringing (IMHO driven more by domestic political concerns than grand strategy or even the specifics of Gen. McChrystal’s assessment and request) continues apace while our forces (as well as our allies and our enemies) in Afghanistan wait.

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Jay 9 October 2009 at 07:07

David: “Why not pursue closer relations with Australia and, particularly, Canada? When I wrote earlier about the ABCA I said its aims were ‘… more limited and short-term than they really ought to be.’ What if the situation with respect to the ABCA was less A + B + C + A, with each of the lesser powers being bruised and feeling used in turn by the affectionate embraces of the leviathan, and more A + (B+C+A)? And so on.”

The question you posed above was actually put into action during the invasion of Iraq during 2003. Although at a much lower level than your post is directed at, the CAOC controlling the combined air power appears to have run on the basis of A+(B+C). I had several individuals describe how Britain and Australia would consult together about a proposed course of action and then one or the other nation would take the lead in tweaking that approach by the US leadership. Greg Sheridan’s book ‘Secrets of the Alliance’ also addresses this interaction.

Britain’s approach was slightly more nuanced because they had more manpower available. Therefore, they could have members embedded in the CAOC, including one Group Captain as a shift director, while maintaining a separate national element to raise national viewpoints. Kept it simple about “Who are you now?” Australia double-hatted its personnel assigned to the CAOC, so that they were both worker bees in the CAOC and national representatives when needed.

One additional problem with the Commonwealth approach is it includes countries that nobody wants to be associated with. Zimbabwe springs to mind. You don’t get to pick and choose who is (was) in the Commonwealth. That is not to say that Britain couldn’t explore closer ties to the countries she does want to work with, based on the shared Commonwealth background and networks.

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Pericles 9 October 2009 at 09:28

With respect, whilst this idea of the ‘Anglosphere’ is superficially attractive (not least because linguistic barriers don’t exist and because some think ‘common values’ has somehow something inherent to do with strategic alliances-they have clearly never studied either the First or Second World Wars), and whilst it has accordingly been kicked around many times in the past (Robert Conquest rants regularly on the subject when he’s not fantasizing in public about the scale of Stalin’s purges), there is an obvious problem. All four countries want different things strategically. America wants to remain global policeman, though some are now inclining towards ‘managed decline’. Canadian public opinion doesn’t seem keen on expeditionary warfare, (help me out Dave, but even previous posts-’Canadian Insanity’-point this way) even if the Canadian armed forces are (since, as in UK scenario, it gives them an otherwise-absent purpose and meaning ,and is useful when bidding to keep tanks in the armoury). Australia and NZ are largely oriented towards balancing in SE Asia, as Australian uranium sales to China demonstrate. And the UK, as we have been discussing elsewhere, doesn’t know what the hell it wants, though the armed forces cling to the ‘force for good’ paradigm for dear life. The ‘ABCA’ works operationally but therefore has no inherent logic strategically. As I said in another post (which seems to have been lost in the ether, possibly because it contained a weblink), if the UK’s argument for aircraft carriers is that ‘China and India are important’, as our deeply profound new NSS dictates, then (a) in a practical war scenario over Taiwan we can only actually send one, and (b) Chinese missile defence is increasingly making a supercarrier battlegroup look like a distinct liability rather than an asset anyway.

The ‘ABCA’ nexus idea also risks perpetuating the delusion that the UK can continue to act globally, that we can continue to ‘punch above our weight’ etc etc ad nauseum. It’s a nice mirage, but I question the strategic substance; in reality it looks like another dead-end which would only postpone the UK having to make even harder and more painful real decisions in another 20 years time.

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Cincinattus Jr. 9 October 2009 at 13:26

I appreciate your perspective and think many of your points are well taken but, even acknowledging the inherent shortcomings of blog posts in terms of being able to fully flesh out points etc., I think a couple of your statements warrant specific response:

(Robert Conquest rants regularly on the subject when he’s not fantasizing in public about the scale of Stalin’s purges)

While I realize you include this reference more as an aside than to address it substantively, I think it is always a good and (deep breath now) moral thing to keep in the fronts of our minds (indeed to even “rant” about it) the extent of such “holocausts,” especially when they are conveniently minimiz(s)ed by those modern day revolutionaries who so often revere such enlightened champions of the common man like Joe Stalin.

America wants to remain global policeman, though some are now inclining towards ‘managed decline’.

While of course a blog invites such generaliz(s)tions, I would question not only your premise that “America” desires to continue being the world’s policeman, but as importantly, its implicit assertion that “America” wanted to perform this role in the first instance.

Cheers!

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Pericles 20 October 2009 at 09:53

Hi.
Ok, deep breaths all round. This risks taking us way off topic, and given that I promised to bow out gracefully, I’m only going to write this one post in response. On the Robert Conquest issue-the majority of serious academic opinion has recognised for a long time now that Conquest was wrong about the scale and nature of the purges. Not that the purges didn’t happen, but that he was wrong about the scale and nature of them, because he never used the archives. To take the most obvious example, he posited 7 million state executions in the 1930s, when we now know the true figure of overall state executions to be closer to one million (actually 835, 197, but we won’t quibble the difference) over the WHOLE period 1917-1953. He was also specificaly wrong about the scale and nature of the famine in the Ukraine. But there is a larger question about all of this-if it is ‘moral’ to focus relentlessly on holocaust-like events, then presumably we should focus solely on American genocide of the Indians or conquest of the Phillipines (200-300, 000 dead?) in contemplating American history, or the man-made Bengal famine (1 million dead) in studying British India, or reduce the whole of German history to Auschwitz. The point is, what is gained from this? Yes we should study history in the round, never forgetting those innocents who died, but in my experience this obsession with holocaust-style events is usually just another form of nationalistic mud-slinging which actually does no honour to the victims at all. The German-Soviet comparison is very well done by the way in a piece by Stephen Wheatcroft: ‘The Scale and Nature of German and Soviet Repression and Mass Killings, 1930-45.’ Europe-Asia Studies 48, 8 (1996), 1319-1353.
Second issue-’America’ doesn’t want to be a global policeman. Well yes, if one takes into account the views of the vast majority of ordinary people who live there. But if the judgement is made instead according to those ‘loudest voices’ coming from the Washington beltway, the ‘benign empire’ crowd of Robert Kagan, Ariel Cohen, Thomas Barnett or Stephen Blank let’s say, one might draw different conclusions. Again, this is not assuming these views are representative of the population as a whole, anymore than one should assume all Russians are closet imperialists longing to get the Soviet Union back, simply because of the existence of characters like Alexander Dugin. But it is suggestive of a view that clearly does have some sway in actual policy-forming circles, as opposed to the ordinary electorate.

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Prestwick 20 October 2009 at 03:36

That is a very interesting view, you can argue that Canada are looking for a new role in the world after their mostly artificial role as the UN’s star peacekeeping player was blown apart after 9/11 and the Canadians went into Afghanistan. ABCA can work because it can change how those powers (America, Britain, Canada and ANZAC) pool their power and employ it.

In this post Bush/Blair/Howard world you have at least three world leaders (Brown, Obama & Rudd willing to co-operate with other powers rather than resort to unilateralism, one possibly future leader (Cameron) who may take the same route and a one former hawk (Harper) who is far more pragmatic these days.

The question in these post Iraq and credit crunch days isn’t “where is the next expedition?” rather “when will the next crisis happen and how will we, as a group of nations with a mutual interest, work with other stakeholders such as China, Russia and the EU to resolve it satisfactorally?”

There will be no more crazy unilateral adventures and it will be leaders like Cameron, Obama and Rudd who will help to spearhead this change in foreign policy and that will keep Canada on board as a result.

As a note, I’m surprised at the authors surprise at ABCA when Britain has had a long history of very close co-operation with its Commonwealth allies such as Canada and the ANZACs with joint Commonwealth forces operating durin Korea and the emergency in Malaya. Even during Vietnam Britain co-operated very closely with the ANZAC contribution as part of Britain’s SEATO obligations but also because Britain was the next closest defence partner in terms of weaponry, training and operating procedure.

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Benet 9 October 2009 at 13:01

Reducing our role within Europe might also prompt the EU nations to take a more active military stance on their own?

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David Betz 9 October 2009 at 13:25

Pericles, I don’t see it as being so superficial as you do. With the exception of the United States I’ve lived in all of the ABCA countries at one point or another and was struck in all by the degree to which our respective history, language, culture, government, etc, are intertwined. I’d agree this is anecdotal, but superficial no. As for what they all want with the possible exception of NZ clearly one thing they want is to remain close to the United States. How to do that without simply being dragged along in its wake was the question I was attempting to address. And, with respect, I bridle at the characterization of Britain’s belief that it can and should ‘punch above its weight’ as ‘delusion’, ‘nauseum’, and ‘mirage’. Obviously, I think that there is a hard discussion to be had about ends and means but I believe Britain is special, has, does, and should continue to ‘punch above its weight’ and that the declinist obsession is just tiresome and self-defeating.

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Cincinattus Jr. 9 October 2009 at 13:29

With the exception of the United States I’ve lived in all of the ABCA countries

Well it is time for a sabbatical old son-come on over!

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Pericles 9 October 2009 at 13:36

Fair dos.

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David Betz 9 October 2009 at 13:37

Pericles, just recovered your lost comment from our spam filter. There were a couple of other genuine ones in there amidst a large volume of Viagra come ons. Really not sure why it picks up some and not others.

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Pericles 9 October 2009 at 13:41

Best not to use words ‘viagra’ and ‘strategy’ in a single sentence then?

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David Betz 9 October 2009 at 13:46

Nice. You just picked the title of my next post! ‘The Viagra Strategy’ Not sure what will go in it. I’m sure I can make some s**t up. I bet it will increase our traffic by a lot.

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Cincinattus Jr. 9 October 2009 at 13:56

Careful or my filter here at “PC” Uni will not let it through.

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Pericles 9 October 2009 at 14:11
Paul 9 October 2009 at 20:55

David,

I agree we should have a bridge strategy. But instead of America, we should be using our unique influence in India and bridging her with the EU and the USA. However, we must have one eye on the Chinese, as the embryonic space/arms race that is developing between these two may force us once again to take sides and we wouldn’t want that! However, India is the one economic powerhouse of the future that we have a unique understanding with.

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Jim 10 October 2009 at 01:13

This article is consistent with David’s observatons:

https://newafpims.afnews.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-090827-008.pdf

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Grant 12 October 2009 at 06:50

In re. to Graham’s comment, also speaking as an American: We could only wish to have the kind of influence. A lot of the sentiment at my college is that while our respective people may like each other, it seems very hard to convince Britain of some things we see as essential (and vice versa I imagine).
On the suggestion of a U.K strategy focused on revitalizing ties with associated nations such as Canada and Australia, it is of course interesting to me. I’d still suggest retaining your E.U ties as well as you can, even with the Pax Europa it would still be foolish to turn away from an organization that might become something very powerful soon.

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David Betz 12 October 2009 at 11:59

This comment is from Jim Bennett, a KOW reader, and not me. Don’t know why but he was having difficulty positing it.

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By the way, I must add that David is on the right track. An A+(B+C+A) architecture is by far the most flexible, robust, and trustworthy architecture for the UK to aspire to. And although the US State Department would not like it, since they prefer to try to manipulate countries one by one, the US forces would prefer it, since it gives them a stronger and more reliable partner. (There is no such thing as “the Americans”. There are only various American interests. And the other English-speaking people have enough access to American life and culture to understand the differences, if you try. )

And there is enough congruence of interests to make it worthwhile. Britain could get better leverage for its still-substntial military assets if they used them in a grouping of some 100 million people with a substantial combined economic throw-weight than they do now. Canada needs a counterweight to the US; neither the EU nor the UN is adequate, nor really cares about Canada. Australia is an almost-empty country with highly valuable and increasingly scarce and desirable resources — placating big Asian powers will work only so long, especially if North Korea leads a mass breakout of nuclear proliferation in Northeast Asia, as seems likely. Or if Indonesia finally falls apart. Those British nuclear subs are not doing anything useful in the Atlantic; you could send them over the Pole and have them on station in the Pacific in a week’s time. That may come in useful some time in the next ten years.

This would all have some real costs. No real-world strategy is cost-free. The UK would have to get out of the EU. But this is becoming an increasingly obvious no-brainer. Canada would have to up its percentage of GDP it spends on the military. But it would get some useful technology spin-off; After all, the whole Canadian electronics industry was kick-started by NORAD. And Australia would have to take a deep breath and ask itself “really, is everybody going to stop buying our iron ore because they don’t like our foreign policy all of a sudden?”

A good place to start would be in military procurement. Form a buying club; you’d get a better deal almost immediately. The UK needs to get out of the European transport scheme as quickly as possible and buy more C-17s instead. Who flies C-17s? Well, let’s see — the US, the UK, Canada, Australia — and that’s it. So buy a Bloc II version jointly; I’m sure you can get a good deal. Then work on other systems. The Brits need to get out of that European frigates deal Blair dreamed up. See if you can tack yourselves onto the good deal the Aussies got on Perry-class frigates instead.

The big problem, of course, will be joint command. The critics of the deal in Australia will be crying Gallipoli all over again. But the Imperial general Staff in wWII worked fairly well, in fact. Probably you’ll want to get a new name. Ultimately there will need to be a treaty, some kind of structure. It could be as little as a mini-NATO; it could be as much as a formal federation, as some websites are advocating. Whatever works. But some form of this architecture is probably the best of available options for allowing you to go it alone, or work one amore nearly equal basis of cooperation with the US, as circumstances dictate.

As for Howell’s statements, he makes two big mistakes, I think. One is to link the idea of a Commonwealth strategy to buying into the American decline meme. Much of this nonsense will be reversed once Obama is gone. The other is to count India as part of a Commonwealth bloc that would follow British leadership. It always reminds me of Enver Hoxha’s slogan: “Together, Albania and China are 603 Million Strong!” The Anglosphere will eventually be a three-legged system if the UK-AUS-CAN gets its act together. And India will be one of the legs, by itself. But that wouldn’t be a bad outcome.

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Pericles 12 October 2009 at 15:17

I find this debate very interesting, but I remain not entirely convinced. Why is getting out of the EU an ‘increasingly obvious no-brainer’?
Genuinely curious, not trying to be difficult. Most arguments I’ve read for ‘getting out’ of the EU take next to no account of how difficult it would already be, (trade deals, human rights act, environmental legislation), even though we’ve not adopted the Euro. What gives the UK special leverage in bridge building between India and China? And what part of Canadian public opinion is going to support big increases in defence spending? If talk of American ‘declinism’ may be exaggerated in relative terms, can we nonetheless admit that a strategic shift is occurring (America’s demographic growth by 2050 imposing increasing environmental and governance challenges for example that will make some of it’s problems by then come to resemble China’s or India’s today) and not simply ‘blame Obama’? And finally, to return to my initial point, which doesn’t need a characterization of relative UK decline (which some may find upsetting) to remain pertinent and seriously demand addressing-what is the common strategic purpose that is meant to hold this Anglosphere club together as a genuine alliance? Fear of China?

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Prestwick 20 October 2009 at 03:59

Part of UK decline is quite frankly a combination of gross mismanagement over the course of four premierships (from Callaghan through to Blair) and genuine Diplomatic blunders which had successfully spent whatever political capital Britain had on the world stage. To be brutally honest, one does not need an EU to screw things up.

I think the path lies not with “getting out of the EU” because it would be very difficult although not on the reasons of the Human Rights Act and other stuff such as Envionmental law. That can be reversed primarily on the pretext that “Parliament is sovereign” and the weasel language in the EU that directives are advisories and not actual laws in themselves. The difficulty however comes in trying to actually *differentiate* from EU “law”. Britain is now so submerged in it that many UK laws mirror EU directives so, what exacly would the difference be in the first 50 EU-free years?

What Britain can do is opt out of wasteful and frankly ineffective prestige projects such as the European Rapid Reaction Force which has so far acheived a lot of driving around in Chad and has proved firstly that France can quickly detain an insane Foreign Legionaire and that the Ford Pick ups of Ireland’s Special Forces can drive around in the desert. Apart from that it hasn’t done much else simply because there never has been (and never will be) the political will to actually use the ERRF. Look at Kosovo in 1999 and look at Afghanistan today and tell me with a straight face that Europe wholeheartedly committed itself to those two operations. If Europe wants to remain relevant in the next 20 years it must learn that sometimes it has to use force as well as words. A skilful peacekeeping operation similar to Australia’s near intervention in East Timor (another quiet ABCA intervention by the way) is far more effective than a Student Debating Society-esque “resolution” from the EU Parliament.

And this is what links Britain, Canada and Australia together. All three have simialr challenges and problems. All three face some kind of decline either now or in the future. Australia cannot rely on mining forever for example whilst Canada cannot ensure that its legacy industrial assets will continue to survive. In fact, both GM Canada and Bombardier are in serious problems.

And this is what brings the three together. This isn’t about Britain controlling anything. Their shared interest is to maintain influence and relevance together by collectively pooling what they have and working together with America, China, India and Russia.

This is what will shape Commonwealth co-operation..the sad thing is that it would be tremendous if an emerging South Africa was part of this. Sadly, they now the classic NAM member.

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davidbfpo 12 October 2009 at 16:14

David it was I who posted awhile on another thread a query about non-UK members of the strategy team. Yes, I agree it was a fair question and no I was not aware a lead drafter of the new US Quadrennial Defense Review, Shawn Brimley, is a Canadian?

My question remains who are the non-UK members involved?

Why does the UK JIC have a pernament US rep? Previously the CIA London Station chief, so presumably now wearing a DNI hat. I have never seen anything that indicates the UK has a similar role in the JIC equivalent in Washington DC.

ABCA is undoubtedly a good thing, but needs to be updated. Who should it include? Do they have to be English-speaking? Another hread maybe – Who next in ABCA? Almost akin to the ‘coalition of the willing’. So here are my initial thoughts: Oman, Kuwait, Singapore, Malaysia, RoK, Denmark, Holland and India. Nearly missed France!

The weakness of the ABCA is whether it is relevant today and whether it has public support, not political and institutional support. The ‘Special Relationship’ IMHO is weakened by the way it is seen here in the UK as ‘special’ and something that is guaranteed. People need to persauded that it is, incidentally helped by Obama’s arrival and so possibly postponed.

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Cincinattus Jr. 12 October 2009 at 16:34

In terms of the “special US/UK relationship, I contend it is in peril more than at any time by the current US administration. I do not believe the shabby treatment of the UK PM during his visits to the US or the behavior of the LEADER OF THE WORLD in his last visit to the UK when He met the Queen are solely due to his lack of social graces. While some of this may be attributed to His and His handler’s shortcomings with respect to manners between heads of state etc., it also is suggestive of the collective attitude of His administration that does not hold the UK in particularly high regard.

I attribute this, in a somewhat perverse sense, to the cooperation between the two countries in recent years, such as in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Or put another way, no good deed goes unpunished.

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Pericles 12 October 2009 at 21:31

I’m not as offended by Obama’s attitude as others seem to be, nor can I get agitated by the Nobel Prize issue (hey, guess what-the Nobel prize is political…brown bear seen wandering into woods…). Another rumour is that Obama harbours a grudge against UK due to his Kenyan family background-again, that wouldn’t actually bother me, though I don’t see any reason to particularly believe that is the case.
With the EU economy actually bigger than the American economy, I’m also still waiting to hear why exit from the EU is an ‘obvious no brainer’. Yes, Britons and Americans are per capita more productive, but the UK in one recent survey was also judged to have the worst quality of life in Europe. Anyway..
This focus and agitation about how ‘special’ the transatlantic relationship is, or how important the Anglosphere is, I humbly submit, another way to avoid discussing what a rational UK-centric strategy might look like-legacy issues of assumed ‘specialness’ and ‘globality’ playing the same role here as platform-centric rivalries do within the military debate (aircraft carrier or typhoon?). I may well be wrong about this. However on that note, I’m now going to bow out gracefully…

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Cincinnatus Jr. 12 October 2009 at 22:27

I think you are on the mark in terms of the UK using a UK centric perspective just as I would advise any nominal ally of the US to do. I cannot speak to any Kenyan connection for His apparent disdain for the UK but I can say that a number of respected pundits and other White House observers do believe His attitude is not especially warm toward the UK regardless of what the reasons for it may be.

Just as many here in the US (yes even those of us without any alleged racial or other nefarious motives) are coming to understand, anyone dealing with or depending on the US does so at his or her own peril.

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Jim 12 October 2009 at 23:11

Well, let’s see: Britain is a net contributor to the EU budget; it runs a trade deficit with the Continent; EU migrants to the UK are mostly job-seekers; UK migrants to the Continent are mostly retirees spending state pensions in Continental economies; European joint technology efforts, civil or military, have been mostly ill-conceived, ill-managed underachieving money sinks; and EU-managed commons such as fisheries have been ecological disasters primarily benefiting Continental fishermen. EU-imposed regulation has added substantial costs to UK businesses for no obvious benefit. Then there are the opportunity costs: the US has offered full free trade to the UK several times in the last decade, but you couldn’t accept because you don’t have control over your trade policy.

The EEC may have made sense when its external tariffs were in the 20-30 per cent range. Now thanks to multilateral trade agreements the UK would face a 3 per cent tariff if it were outside the EU entirely,and it seems reasonable the the EU would actually want to give the UK a free-trade/free-movement of people deal for its own sake, if only because it couldn’t afford to forego the trade surplus it enjoys or have to find jobs fr all the young people who today go to Britain.

So, am I missing something here? The Anglosphere is sometimes supposed to be a sentimental fantasy not based on realism, but the ties have been pretty realistic ones of commerce, finance, and military/intelligence cooperation. It’s the Europeanists who talk in airy-fairy terms of “soft power” and “balance” that never seem to actually accomplish things.

I’m not trying to be facetious, what I’m trying to say is that the UK needs to have a broad public conversation with hard facts and analysis about the costs and benefits, including opportunity costs, of staying in the EU versus leaving. I think that the financial environment of the next three to five years may force this conversation whether the great and good want it or not. To understand the opportunity costs properly, there also needs to be a conversation with the rest of the world about what a non-EU UK’s relationships would look like. The US will be part of that, certainly not the only part, but a substantial part. In looking at such scenarios, you should certainly consider the idea of a B+C+A club for both trade and military deals. It’s large enough in terms of people and GDP to be paid attention to. It’s small enough and cozy enough –three PMs with similar systems and similar constraints — to come to decisions quickly. And Britain would be about half of the club — big enough to be influential, unlike the EU — but small enough that the Canadians and Australians wouldn’t feel overwhelmed, or that they were going back to a colonial relationship. I think you should be able to cut some good deals.

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COINTASTIC 13 October 2009 at 19:27

Some of this debate’s a tad ill-informed. The ‘ABCA’ relationship is well established and better known as the ‘Four Eyes’ intelligence community. It’s designed to pool information, share expertise and bounce ideas off close allies. Trust is its foundation and the alliance is extended to other partners as and when. For its historical roots see the intelligence cooperation chapter in Michael Herman’s ‘Intelligence Power in Peace and War’.

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Pericles 13 October 2009 at 20:24

Unrestricted free trade would bury us right now.
Joint technology efforts are always a liability whoever the partner.
The migrants coming to the UK are taking jobs Britons generally don’t want.
‘Four eyes’ as an intelligence custom is well understood. It’s not a strategy.

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David Betz 14 October 2009 at 09:40

COINTASTIC, to be fair I doubt anyone is very well-informed about ABCA. My search of the academic literature has pitched up only one quite interesting article in Armed Forces and Society, Vol. 17, No. 2 (1991), ‘Whither US Alliance Strategy? The ABCA Clue.’

http://afs.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/17/2/277

There is also the wbsite of the ABCA itself which has a canned sort of history: http://www.abca-armies.org/

And there are a handful of articles in Joint Force Quarterly:

http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/jfq_pubs/1918.pdf
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/jfq_pubs/1037.pdf

If anyone feels like offering free research assistance I’d very much like to hear what else is out there. Presumably there are chapters of books or other sources which I have missed. Personally I think this would make an excellent MA thesis topic. Any takers?

In any event the ABCA and ’4-eyes’ (come to think of it isn’t it 5-eyes?) and ABCA are different things though clearly both emerge from the same basic need and willingness to cooperate. ABCA is postwar–it is also just army. There is evidently a naval version of the same thing but about that I know nothing.

Pericles, true, migrants are taking up jobs that Britons are too workshy to want or too unskilled to do. As a migrant myself I reckon that the problem is not the migrants but there is a problem here which I shall get to below.

You ask a lot of good questions. I should point out that I have still not decided whether my ABCA-idea has legs or not. There are a lot of things to consider. But let me take a stab at them nonetheless and see where things go.

‘What gives the UK special leverage in bridge building between India and China?’

In my view, nothing. I think the post above which noted the UK role in bridging India and the US and EU is probably a red herring. Both India and China feel history is going their way right now and they are correct. I suspect they can build their own bridges and plot their own course. I could be wrong about India–it’s not a place I know a lot about.

‘What part of Canadian public opinion is going to support big increases in defence spending?’

Ummmmm…. NONE! Certainly not on a sustained basis though hopefully they will not emasculate their defence establishment in coming years to the degree which Canadian governments did from the mid-60s onwards. But to me the point of the A + (B + C +A) is to get more from each buck already spent.

‘Can we nonetheless admit that a strategic shift is occurring (America’s demographic growth by 2050 imposing increasing environmental and governance challenges for example that will make some of it’s problems by then come to resemble China’s or India’s today) and not simply ‘blame Obama’?’

Yes. I think most assuredly there is a strategic shift occurring. But what demographic challenges are you talking about? America has pretty good demographics–excellent, in fact, when compared with India and China (and Europe) which surely must be contemplating where they’ll find girlfriends for the present generation of singleton boys in coming years. Environmental challenges across the board are more severe in China than in America. There are a lot of challenges ahead for the Asian Century. My inner pessimist wonders whether they will be met successfully. Moreover, not to come over all Spenglerian I think the major problem for the West is that a half century of complacent good life have made too much of its population workshy and fat–intellectually and spiritually as well as physically. I have some hope that the next decade or two which look set to be quite tough will force people to grow up.

‘What is the common strategic purpose that is meant to hold this Anglosphere club together as a genuine alliance? Fear of China?’

Yes. I think fear is a main part of it, of China but also of more besides that. It’s the West’s ‘Age of the Unthinkable’ or ‘Age of Anxiety’ (anyone have a better name) which is characterized to a large extent by fear that we are rich (and old and too few) while much of the rest of the world is too poor (and young–and male, not incidentally–and numerous). I highly recommend Malcolm Potts’ recent book Sex and War (with that title how is it not a NYTimes bestseller?) which lays out the strategic ‘problematique’ very well, I think.

But I also think (hope, maybe) that there is a positive angle. I’ll lt Burke do the talking:

‘Men are not tied to one another by papers and seals. They are led to associate by resemblances, by conformities, by sympathies. Nothing is so strong a tie of amity between nations as correspondence in laws, customs, manners and habits of life. They have more than the force of treaties in themselves. They are obligations from the heart.’

I suppose that all I am suggesting is that if there remains enough degree of Burkean amity between B + C + A then that might be capitalized upon in order to alleviate the concern each country has individually about being overwhelmed by their own ‘special’ friend A.

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Kenneth Payne 14 October 2009 at 10:29

David – you’ve inspired me, I’m off for a run. And then to the library.

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Cincinattus Jr. 14 October 2009 at 12:31

I will also dip a toe in the literature here in the US. I think your post distills much of the debate (and concern) but I would pick a very small bone with the apparent assumption in your remark “simply blame Obama.” While I make no apologies for my many and profound differences of opinion with the policies, actions and proposals of His administration, please know that many of us here who take such positions are not “simply” blaming the LEADER OF THE WORLD.

We are well aware that most of the international issues with which His administration is now dealing are quite complex and nuanced, if not heretofore intractable (such as those involved in the Israeli-Palestinian situation). Addressing their “causes” and any “solutions” will likewise require thorough analysis, debate and in the end, resoluteness on the part of the US and other nations involved.

While the realities of politics (domestic and international) must necessarily be taken into account in this process, neither I nor many of my colleagues see these matters through a partisan lens. I fear from your comment that it may be more the result of the imbalance in tone and substance (such as it has been) of much of the US media coverage regarding His administration and in particular those of us with the temerity to suggest the emperor may not be as finely attired as He and the members of His may think.

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Cincinattus Jr. 14 October 2009 at 12:32

I will also dip a toe in the literature here in the US. I think your post distills much of the debate (and concern) but I would pick a very small bone with the apparent assumption in your remark “simply blame Obama.” While I make no apologies for my many and profound differences of opinion with the policies, actions and proposals of His administration, please know that many of us here who take such positions are not “simply” blaming the LEADER OF THE WORLD.

We are well aware that most of the international issues with which His administration is now dealing are quite complex and nuanced, if not heretofore intractable (such as those involved in the Israeli-Palestinian situation). Addressing their “causes” and any “solutions” will likewise require thorough analysis, debate and in the end, resoluteness on the part of the US and other nations involved.

While the realities of politics (domestic and international) must necessarily be taken into account in this process, neither I nor many of my colleagues see these matters through a partisan lens. I fear from your comment that it may be more the result of the imbalance in tone and substance (such as it has been) of much of the US media coverage regarding His administration and in particular those of us with the temerity to suggest the emperor may not be as finely attired as He and the members of His court may think.

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David Betz 14 October 2009 at 13:05

Cincinattus Jr, thanks! Re Obama I was merely quoting Pericles’s question. On his accomplishments I would offer no judgement because I don’t think there are any yet. I’m hopeful that there may be but in the meantime, yes, defintely, the fawning of his admirers is irksome. To his credit he didn’t actually campaign for the Nobel as someone mentioned previously on another thread.

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Cincinattus Jr. 14 October 2009 at 15:48

“Coalition Interoperability: ABCA’s New Focus,”
Military Review, Richard A Cody and Robert L Maginnis, 11/1/06
http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/caj/documents/vol_10/iss_1/CAJ_vol10.1_11_e.pdf

“Moving beyond manoeuvre: a conceptual coming-of-age for the Australian and Canadian armies,” Australian Defence Journal, Aaron P. Jackson, 1/1/2008
http://www.adfjournal.adc.edu.au/UserFiles/issues/177%202008%20Nov_Dec.pdf

“The nuanced Australian – U.S. defence relationship,”
The Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars
Asia Program, Thomas-Durell Young
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/topics/docs/Thomas-Durell_Youngs_paper.pdf

http://www.defence.gov.au/publications/amend2_27.09.06.pdf

More to follow I hope… off to class.

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Dan 19 October 2009 at 01:42

The idea of A+(B+C+A) makes sense in terms of professional Armed Forces with some shared history planning and training jointly. However can you think of any chance of an operation with A sitting it out but B+C+A taking part, sorry but I can not.

In terms of actual national interests and willingness to use force there are differences and they are going to increase not decrease.

What is the British National interest in a China takes Taiwan scenario? The idea of sending SSN over the pole or a Carrier via Suez is a joke it is not going to happen. In a second Korean war again there is not going to be a British contribution.

In terms of Europe again Lisbon is going to be ratified before Christmas, there will be arguments between Cameron and the EU over the next 5-10 years but it is unlikely UK will actually leave through they will keep their semi-detached status of staying out of Euro, and Schengen and Justice and Home affairs. As someone up thread says the media narrative of a European Army and opposition big time by the public will make any co-operation difficult. But why is it terrible to have a joint Battle Group with the French in the EU but perfectly OK for the Joint UK Netherlands Amphibious force to be declared to NATO?

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Gabriele 15 June 2010 at 12:29

I’m against the “is not going to happen” point for principle. Lots of things “were not going to happen” but happened. From the Second World War (remember how the Great War was announced as “the last war”, or remember the ridiculous “never again war” agreement with Hitler in Munich?)
Similarly, especially from when oil has been found down there, i don’t like the short-sighted “is not going to happen” argument against the possibility of new hostilities in the South Atlantic.

More to the point of this particular blog, i must point out a flaw in Dan’s post: while most likely the UK would never intervene militarily for Taiwan, ruling out a contribution to operations in Korea is not wise.

The UN document that put on paper the end of the Korean War has an article that states that, if war was to sparkle again in the peninsula, we (the UN-nations that intervened, and thus UK as well) shall intervene again.
Now, stepping shy of a written, signed and never rejected commitment taken would be embarassing. Perhaps simply too much to accept it.
Also because, since we often notice with discomfort how little effective UN acts are, since they are ignored regularly by nations like Iran, it would be quite a political mess to ignore an UN document that the UK signed and helped to write.

What kind of political damage would follow such a move? And what credibility could ever be maintained for the UN if everyone steps away from its own commitments when the moment comes?

Which also makes me say: there’s who suggests weakening britain’s military because “we’ll always have allies, or the US, helping us”.
If the UK refuses to help its allies… Who ensures that the UK is gonna be helped if a need for help arises?
In 1982, already, help didn’t really come that much when the Falklands were invaded.
And i doubt that the UK would get any more help than back then, was something to happen again.

You simply can’t ask other people to do the work for you if you are the first turning your back on your word and promises.

And it would be damn Non-British an action, too.

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Just an Australian 19 October 2009 at 12:19

Commonwealth, good, but Commonwealth is more than just B+C+A.

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Amused 19 October 2009 at 15:56

Yes, we’ll get absolutely nowhere without Nigeria, Malta, Sierra Leone, the Maldives, Bangladesh, Tonga, Zambia or Zimbabwe.

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Aron 4 May 2010 at 17:13
Bill 13 June 2010 at 03:39

Be sensible, be polite.

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